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Leaked fundraiser audio has Paxton saying cuts to mandatory federal spending are needed; he says he will protect Social Security

The Texas Tribune obtained a fourth recording from a Sept. 24 lobbyist lunch. Paxton's campaign calls the clips cherry-picked, while Democrats say they show a threat to seniors' benefits.

Coralie Stroud

October 8, 20262 min read

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A fourth recording from a private fundraiser has put Republican U.S. Senate nominee Ken Paxton's views on federal benefit programs into the Texas Senate race less than two weeks before early voting begins.

In audio obtained by The Texas Tribune and published Thursday, Paxton, the state's attorney general, answers a question about reducing the federal deficit by saying "reasonable cuts to mandatory spending" will be necessary. "Or there is no solution. That's just the reality. We have to suck it up," he says in the clip.

The remarks came at a Sept. 24 lunch on Capitol Hill hosted by two lobbyists from the Washington firm Williams & Jensen and attended by about a dozen people, mostly lobbyists, according to the Tribune. An attendee who opposes Paxton's campaign made the recording, and two other people who were there confirmed details of the conversation to the Tribune.

Earlier clips from the same event went to The New York Times, Politico and Axios.

What Paxton said, and what he says now

In the recording, Paxton paired spending cuts with tax policy meant to spur economic growth and said deficit spending under presidents of both parties would "bankrupt us." He did not name programs he would cut or say by how much.

Most mandatory federal spending goes to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid; the Tribune, citing the Congressional Budget Office, put their share at about three-quarters in the most recent fiscal year.

In a statement to the Tribune after the story ran, Paxton said he would protect Social Security, calling it "a sacred promise" that seniors paid into, and named cracking down on fraud as a major way to cut the deficit. "The fake news keeps spinning the same cherry-picked audio to mislead Texans and take my words out of context," he said.

"I have never said I would take away entitlements from those who deserve or earned them." He did not answer the Tribune's questions about which programs he would target.

Paxton also criticized his opponent, Democrat James Talarico, whose economic plan includes higher taxes on billionaires.

The Democratic response

Texas Democratic Party spokesperson Ryan Martin said Paxton supports tax cuts that add to the debt while seeking cuts to programs for seniors.

"Paxton is literally laughing with rich D.C. lobbyists about giving them bigger tax breaks while threatening cuts to Social Security, Medicaid and programs for working Texans," Martin said, referring to a moment in the recording when a lobbyist joked about wanting a personal tax cut.

The Tribune reported that Talarico has consistently led in public polling of the race. It also reported that super PACs aligned with Senate Majority Leader John Thune and President Donald Trump have spent more than $150 million on ads backing Paxton since the start of September, citing the tracking firm AdImpact.

Early voting for the Nov. 3 election begins Monday, Oct. 19.

Sources

The Texas Tribune

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Coralie Stroud

Coralie Stroud writes about community life, schools, public safety, and local events in Gunter.

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